Daphne: "I don't trust your dream... But I trust you!"
Can't she just say "Okay. Get it. I trust you?" or is it against the tsundere code of conduct?

Ouka used Mikoto's gravity magic to accelerate his attack was cool, NGL.

They cant trust the dream because that was the price for having premonitions, no one can trust cassandra's dreams, its like a curse, but the bypass is that they can trust cassandra herself not the dreams so thats the bypass to the curse

I hope you do see the sophistry in putting it like that. It just means you can overturn the 'no one can trust cassandra's dreams' by putting them in a different context. Trivializes the curse entirely.

I don't trust your visions, I trust your words/ I trust you/ I trust your visions not as visions, but as advice/ I trust your feelings/ I trust your beliefs.

If all you need to do is deny they're visions in the first place, then is it even a curse?!

thats why sophistry is a wonderful thing. truth in our understanding of it is very relative and contextual.. all a matter of perspective. What you're talking about would be an universal absolute truth and as humans we cant exactly ever know for sure we can understand it

Your answer is a classic example of what you preach. Witty.

I do believe I wasn't the one introducing it as an absolute truth. I just reasoned based on the premise given.

:D yeah i know

Well it's not that easy because Cassandra still does not know that she is cursed, we only know it because we're given the context. and its not easy to trust without basis, it only worked because Daphne is her friend. Like that's why its the title of the episode. So a lot of people still wont trust her even if she knew that she is cursed if she dont have confidence first and build on herself

The curse was a homage to the original myth counterpart of Cassandra so its more like saying thats the author's solution to the original character's dilemma. And its not trivial because its called plot development and character development at the same time

She has foresight, no curses involved.

If it payed proper homage to the myth counterpart, it would've ended in tragedy. The writing undermines the curse.

Hmm but the Gods are aware that Cassandra has clairvoyance so what, does it only affects mortals?
As a 'Monkey-Paw' type Curses go that's kind of flimsy, couldn't the God's just tell everybody to fully trust Cassandra's premonitions even if in the moment they think it's the wrong thing to do?

Regardless it still pisses me off when the world is literally caving in on them as Cassandra had warned them would happen again and again with the whole 'coffin' thing and she's still like;
'OMG STFU CASSANDRA THE ADULTS ARE TALKING!' like some obnoxious boomer Karen.

Is that why Bell went to get her pillow? Cause he trusts her?

divine spell doesnt work on bell, just like the charm spell in season 2

wasnt sure. Thought his ability prevented him from being charmed/influenced while Cassandras makes you not believe the prophecy.

Fi. Na. Ly. Done with that floor boss. More Bell and Ryu please!

That is not cassandra's ability. That is Apollo's gift and curse which is divine power. So bell won't affect to it like others.

Bell has one unique development ability when he reached level 2, LUCK. This stat enables Bell to believe in her premonitions. Anime did not mentioned this stat at all, which is a shame because it is OP.

Bell actually stated he believed her premonitions along with various party members in Bell's party. Bell however initially went against them however to save a friend. On the contrary though Daphne is a huge catalyst to attack them and push them out. It's like believing in superstition to her. Seems the gods know this is a true ability that they themselves don't fully understand.

If anything unlike playing an MMO Danmachi seems to throws limitations at the character to make them more "life-like" and they progress through levels much slower. We see Bell however progressing much quicker because of his born talent to learn quickly. On the contrary leveling would be like here's a few more chances to heal in the dungeon from say the 1 you started out with. Use it wisely.

you know, if cassandra actually did her job as a healer they wouldnt have had such a hard time

"hey healer, you see this red stuff on me? on him too? and her and her too? yea...so what you gonna do about it?"

the whole entire time, i was like "CAST HEAL DAMN IT!!!:

i would def get another healer next time.

just like that player who stole my support role but sucks at it that one time

Only sexual heal. For anything less than sexual heal we can use healing vials x)

Right? If I only healed my party once during an entire boss fight I'd be kicked from the party immediately lol

The only spell she knows is Zetsubou

Party morale -200%

lmfao....

she's arguing with herself all of the time instead of helping the party, at least this episode gave a tiny winy bit of redemption for her. I still hate her guts

As much as I like her and can excuse some of her behavior, because she is human after all and is on the brink of despair, she still has a job to do. She's already had this whole "getting over it" moment in the last episode, and still needs more. I get she's in need of a cheering up, but do your fucking job at the least.

issue with her is that she wont stand up to her fate and try to change the outcome thats what alot of people hate about her

exactly

Either the healer heals or the entire party pops their ults at the same time. Either would work.

would be funny if they had a member who has a skill that just stacks debuff upon debuff for every cast

As far as I remember in this anime healers actually only get so many heals and aren't essentially endless wells. This going back even since the beginning of the anime's history. Essentially she'd provide majors heals when the party is at their worst but also would eventually run out. They made it out she was actually healing more then it seemed after being pushed.

Bell is our sun. Go east to the sun.

Okay, but how did Mikoto hear the scream from under the water? Seems like a stretch to me.

We have people literally jumping hundreds of feet in the air, summoning magic, swinging weapons that are so big and heavy, that even with super strength still wouldn't be possible because of weight/mass

And you are questioning the hearing from underwater part?

A normal level 2 adventurer could jump up to 3 floors I think that was explained in the novel. Basically, adventurers in danmachi are superhuman, everything gets upgraded if you level up, better sight, better hearing, better endurance, strength etc. and that improves each level up, same reason why Bell didnt die when he fell in the 100 meter waterfall

If you don't Iike it, go watch a real TV show. Why can't ppl like you just enjoy something for what it is. This is literally an anime about God's and magic and humans getting stronger on a level based system. No one wants to hear your complaining. Keep it to yourself and move on to shows that have what you like, instead of complaining. Or better yet write your own manga and have it published and adapted into an anime.

The fuck? Did you reply to the wrong person? Chisou here was just explaining how the system was described in the novel.

? when did I say I didnt liked it?

Can I get bigger pp?

Unfortunately no, but adventurers have the stamina of a horse so you can last a whole day in bed

Damn, That's a good point.

I feel like we're already being very tolerant. We're turning a blind eye to all of that. But the underwater hearing part is really pushing the limits of said tolerance, my friend. Is it so much to ask to just have some things make sense?

What makes you so sure she "heard" it?

You must be trolling. That or you live in a very normal box.

Yup, trolling about this particular case. I'm serious about not liking an 'anything flies' plotline though.

What do you mean 'very normal box'?

Anime logic

When in doubt the answer is always magic?

Water conducts soundwaves pretty well.

Sound waves travel differently through water than they do through air. The speed of sound is faster in water, and sound waves travel in different directions.

What are sound waves?
Sound waves are vibrations that travel through the air (or any medium), causing our eardrums to vibrate and producing the sensation of sound. The pitch of a sound (how high or low it sounds) depends on the frequency of the vibration: the more times the waves vibrate per second, the higher the pitch. The volume (how loud or soft it sounds) depends on the amplitude of the vibration: the greater the amplitude, the louder it is.

How do sound waves travel through water?
Sound waves can travel through water, but they travel more slowly than they do through air. The speed of sound in water is about 1,500 meters per second, which is about four times slower than the speed of sound in air. The speed of sound in water varies depending on the temperature and salinity of the water.

How does water affect sound waves?
Water is an excellent conductor of sound and helps to carry sound waves over long distances. In general, the deeper the water, the better it is at conducting sound. This is because the pressure of the water on the seafloor helps to amplify the sound waves.

Let me add a question: How come the sound of a pool full of screaming people dulls when you get underwater? Why doesn't it amplify the sound?

A lot of the sound doesn't make it underwater and just bounces of the water. But what does travels well. If very little sound makes it, it can be hard for us to hear it but for an adventurer it shouldn't be an issue.